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NHW:

ukurse:

L0d3x:

It accelerates huge metal slugs using magnetic coils.

So, what its just like a giant spring shotting huge slugs of metal?

No

the coil goes around the barrel.

when electricity flows through it... it becomes magnetic and the MAC round it fired.

The simplest way to think about it is one magnets gets shot out of a magnetic barrel by being pulled out rapidly....you know what, forget it, there isn't a simple way to explain it. Just think about how magnets work.

 

 

(all of that could be wrong but that's my understanding of it) 

Close enough. A coil gun is a barrel with a series of magnetic coils around it. When fired, the coils turn on and then off in a sequenced action resulting into what is referred to by some coil gun enthusiasts as "the pulse." This pulse occurs at phenomenal speeds. As each coil turns on they pull the round forward until it exits the barrel.

Now don't get this confused with the railgun which utilizes two magneticized rails instead of coils, but on the same principal. 

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Mr. sprinkles:

When asshat fans start thinking they can make better games than actual game producers, starcraft happens.

Wait...

Wasn't StarCraft like one of the best RTSs of its time?

Did you ever think you were in the minority?

Mr. sprinkles:

When asshat fans start thinking they can make better games than actual game producers, starcraft happens.

That's like saying when people start donating a few pennies here and a dollar there, we discover the Cure for Cancer.

Lethe:

Then you should be pretty happy with the game; it's a lot of fun.
Even if a squad of marines out of dozens of units on a battle field has shoulder pads .25" too thick for a fanboy's tastes :)

Smile:

Mr. sprinkles:

When asshat fans start thinking they can make better games than actual game producers, starcraft happens.

Wait...

Wasn't StarCraft like one of the best RTSs of its time?

 

Did you ever think you were in the minority?

No he didn't. I mean for him to be able to grasp the fact that he is the minority in a minority would just be preposterous.

sence we are being necro here...

Mr. sprinkles:

      It's as plausable as anything else like it, combat rifles.

you wish you made the Combat Rifle!

http://s263.photobucket.com/albums/ii156/laxspartan007/?action=view&current=CambatRifle3-1.jpg

Mr. sprinkles:

Starcraft was just a bastardized warhammer that made a very good game and therefore because more people knew about it first it must be the 'Original'. I love starcraft for it's gameplay but not when it's a theme for theme rip-off of warhammer 40000.

Well, Halo is a theme for theme ripoff of StarCraft. You know, three races/empires, one of which is biologic and the other is highly advanced, all of which was started by some arcane race that died off for some reason or the other.[/Sarcasm]

OK, while StarCraft does draw some inspiration from Warhammer 40K, such as the design for the Space Marine, Hydralisk, and Psionic tech, it also draws inspiration from other franchises, such as Aliens. In any case, StarCraft took large steps to separate itself from it's progenitors, setting itself in a unique setting (Human outcasts living in a sector far away from Earth, instead of spanning the whole galaxy) and using a unique blend of "Muscle Tech", "Used Future" and "Space Cowboy" themes. Also, they set it in the future.

WH40K, for all of it's good points (And there are a lot of them) is not supposed to be a future. It is really myths and legends of the past, dredged up and revamped with a sci-fi paint (Sometimes, it seems like WH40K could have been thought of by someone like L. Ron Hubbard. That's not a complement) Orks and mages and demons and knights are abound, duking it out with ray guns and space ships.

So, while the Terran Marine looks a lot like the Space Marine, don't mistake StarCraft for a WH40K ripoff. It's much more sophisticated. Especially when WH40K bears more similarity to WarCraft.
 

Lethe:

Then you should be pretty happy with the game; it's a lot of fun.
Even if a squad of marines out of dozens of units on a battle field has shoulder pads .25" too thick for a fanboy's tastes :)

laxspartan007:

sence we are being necro here...

Mr. sprinkles:

      It's as plausable as anything else like it, combat rifles.

you wish you made the Combat Rifle!

http://s263.photobucket.com/albums/ii156/laxspartan007/?action=view&current=CambatRifle3-1.jpg

Dude, it has been four days. That is not necroing. Necroing aka grave digging/robbing is usually a month and up. Thank you Rasq, for enlightening Mr. Sprinkles. Starcraft is no worse than Halo as Rasq pointed out. When I first played Halo, I was constantly referring to the Forerunners as Progenitors (and once the Bentus on accident). Hell, if you really want to, you can pull parallels out of almost any story. Hell, Gravemind could really be Cthulu.

Rotaretilbo:

Mr. sprinkles:

To those of you who think they know every little bit about canon, halo, and all it's characters please stop flaunting. You cannot completely know or understand halo canon. Namely in this the orbital MAC. Now scientifically we argue and debate back and forth over it. But think, our only knowledge about it comes from books and games. Now in the books whenever a MAC's power is addressed it is reffered to as, "A normal MAC blast could..." the thing is MAC technology has been already demonstrated in many ways, Ship board MAC's, MAC stations, The guass hog. Who says it cannot be fitted to a bombardment variant? Stating that something unaddressed or unmentioned in halo is non-canon is actually biased information and is actually fanon.

 

     Don't try to argue science here, as it IS after all a fictional universe. On that is not fully detailed or fleshed out. You can't be positive in saying that a bombardment variant of a MAC is impossible, what are your sources? Never addressed in the books. And MC never had air support from a ship as large as the SoF. It's as plausable as anything else like it, combat rifles. And before other members start flooding me with, "Well if they went by that logic they could add werewolves in!" don't say anything as irrelevant as that. It's still a halo game. I'm just saying that the orbital MAC strike could easily (And probably will) become 'Canon'.

Rotaretilbo:

Mr. sprinkles:

Too bad that's impossible, and actually acting as if you know unspecified canon is pretty much making it up. For all we know there could be a bombardment version of the MAC gun installed in very large ships.

If Wraiths can have shields, why do the Covenant mysteriously stop deploying them in four major conflicts, three of which take place on Forerunner artifacts? And why make a ground bombardment of a ship to ship weapon when you can just use Archer missiles? "We have this coilgun that speeds objects up to nearly half the speed of light, but we want to be able to waste the previous few shots a ship can carry of it on planets without destroying the planets outright, so let's waste the time to develop a second version that fires them incredibly slow, and then, for God knows why, since we can't fit this and a regular MAC on a ship, we'll equip this on some ships instead of a regular MAC, making those ships completely useless in space combat." Yup, that makes perfect sense.

Ŧhunder€hief:

I fail, then, to see where your contention leads to discussion or debate, obviously you won't be persuaded, as you will not listen to anyone else's opinion.

You just made my day.

YOU sir just made my day 

paragon:

Heck I don't even own the place. I am more like a gardener.

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YOU sir are spamming needlessly. Seriously, say something that at least pertains to the topic and is somewhat intelligent.

Warhammer 40000 and Warhammer: Fantasy beat starcraft AND warcraft to each theme by about twenty years. Warhammer came in somewhere around 1970, starcraft was 1998. Warhammer was the original creator of the 'Green ork' (Not saying everything with snot green orks is a copy, just stating who first used the concept.) I know extensive lore about 40K and ready the lore about the starcraft factions made me gag.

Let me give you some examples: Zerg-Tyrannids. At the time Zerg were thought up the Tyrannids where becoming popular in warhammer 40000 stories and games, Tyrannids absorb the biomass of their dead and dead enemies and adapt traits of their for if they so wish. They also serve onbe single hive mind, have a chititnous shell, and attack in large numbers in brutal melee. Plus other lore. Also at the time blizzard released the Zerg Tyrannids could communicate with other aliens. Zerg are almost exactly Tyrannids at the time of their creation. Tyrannids where later changed to not being able to communicate.

Protoss-Eldar: Both: An ancient and debased people focusing on speed and stealth, seeking to fix the galaxy and balance it. Mortally wounded protoss are put in an armoured mech to keep fighting (Combination of Wraithlord//guard Dreadnaught: Space marine concept switched around) Low numbers mean they have to be extremely wise.

Terran-Space marine: Do I even have to say anything? Just look at two pictures of them side by side. Warhammer 40000 has traitor pirates and illegal traders that resemble spce pirates. Even a renegade space marine chapter. The influence of chaos and the powers of the warp are ever pressing on the weak mind. And the only way to drive it out is with blind devotion, devotion to the one person responsible for human survival and prosperity: the emperor.  Embellished in propeganda a a god The emperor acts as a symbol that keeps mankind together.

Now I have to put something to back up my points, some other reasoning for my points other than inferrence. Did you know Games workshop (Creators of both Warhammer universes) were supposed to help make warcraft? My theory is that Games workshop wanted to use it as a way to introduce warhammer to a larger crowd (At that point it was only books and a tabletop game) but when Bluizzard told them they wouldn't include "Warhammer" in the name games workshop dropped out. Blizzard went on to finish the game (Stressed to create completely new ideas, they had to keep many of the themes from warhammer, but changes name and switch small things around in the races. And they went on to do the same with starcraft. Not all ideas are from  Warhammer universes, but I do find that such a poorly covered collage of science fiction mostly from two universes a bit distasteful.

Anywhoo let's not turn this into a flame war, other wise it'll be Locked.

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laxspartan007:

sence we are being necro here...

Mr. sprinkles:

      It's as plausable as anything else like it, combat rifles.

you wish you made the Combat Rifle!

http://s263.photobucket.com/albums/ii156/laxspartan007/?action=view&current=CambatRifle3-1.jpg

Dude, it has been four days. That is not necroing. Necroing aka grave digging/robbing is usually a month and up. Thank you Rasq, for enlightening Mr. Sprinkles. Starcraft is no worse than Halo as Rasq pointed out. When I first played Halo, I was constantly referring to the Forerunners as Progenitors (and once the Bentus on accident). Hell, if you really want to, you can pull parallels out of almost any story. Hell, Gravemind could really be Cthulu.

i concider(sp) that necroing...past a month is super necroing...and a year or more is necro to the max!...C.R. ftw!

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Thank you Rasq, for enlightening Mr. Sprinkles. Starcraft is no worse than Halo as Rasq pointed out.

You're welcome. 

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When I first played Halo, I was constantly referring to the Forerunners as Progenitors (and once the Bentusi on accident).

 Homeworld... :-)

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Hell, if you really want to, you can pull parallels out of almost any story. Hell, Gravemind could really be Cthulu.

Or the Overmind. 

Lethe:

Then you should be pretty happy with the game; it's a lot of fun.
Even if a squad of marines out of dozens of units on a battle field has shoulder pads .25" too thick for a fanboy's tastes :)