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  •  09-02-2010, 1:45 AM 929770

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    "I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."
  •  09-02-2010, 5:27 AM 929775 in reply to 929770

    Re: ~ Whale Wars ~

    i thought South Park's mockery was pretty humorous.

    Cartman was singing "Poker Face" during the protesting montague.


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  •  09-02-2010, 10:12 AM 929806 in reply to 929775

    Re: ~ Whale Wars ~

    I'll bite.

    I don't mind people protesting things and trying to raise awareness...but when they actively attack another person's livlihood it bothers me. Don't get me wrong, I don't want whales to become extinct...but I also wouldn't want to be unemployed just because you think my job is "mean" to the animals.

    *Sigh. Sitting back and waiting for the hate replies...

  •  09-02-2010, 10:14 AM 929807 in reply to 929775

    Re: ~ Whale Wars ~

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    i thought South Park's mockery was pretty humorous.

    Cartman was singing "Poker Face" during the protesting montague.

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  •  09-02-2010, 10:43 AM 929813 in reply to 929806

    Re: ~ Whale Wars ~

    Jason X35:

    I'll bite.

    I don't mind people protesting things and trying to raise awareness...but when they actively attack another person's livlihood it bothers me. Don't get me wrong, I don't want whales to become extinct...but I also wouldn't want to be unemployed just because you think my job is "mean" to the animals.

    *Sigh. Sitting back and waiting for the hate replies...

    Well, there's a contradiction here: Either you're rooting for the Japs, or you're rooting for the whales.

    At this rate, the whalers WILL cause very crucial species to go extinct, they're even hunting the red-level endangered humpback whale.

    Japan has had a history of refusing to follow what IS world-law...not to mention MANY instances of unrestrained and unprovoked violence.

    I'm not saying that everyone from Japan is pompous, bllodthirsty, or so on...I'm just saying that Japan as a whole just DOES NOT LISTEN...

     


    "I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."
  •  09-02-2010, 11:43 AM 929828 in reply to 929813

    Re: ~ Whale Wars ~

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60BjkUtqxPE

     

     

  •  09-02-2010, 11:56 AM 929831 in reply to 929828

    Re: ~ Whale Wars ~

    fiery grave:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60BjkUtqxPE

     

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  •  09-02-2010, 2:34 PM 929870 in reply to 929828

    Re: ~ Whale Wars ~

    fiery grave:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60BjkUtqxPE

     

     

    Won't load past 2 seconds...>.<

    But I read the lyrics lol xD 


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  •  09-03-2010, 4:42 PM 930313 in reply to 929813

    Re: ~ Whale Wars ~

    Veraam:
    Jason X35:

    I'll bite.

    I don't mind people protesting things and trying to raise awareness...but when they actively attack another person's livlihood it bothers me. Don't get me wrong, I don't want whales to become extinct...but I also wouldn't want to be unemployed just because you think my job is "mean" to the animals.

    *Sigh. Sitting back and waiting for the hate replies...

    Well, there's a contradiction here: Either you're rooting for the Japs, or you're rooting for the whales.

    At this rate, the whalers WILL cause very crucial species to go extinct, they're even hunting the red-level endangered humpback whale.

    Japan has had a history of refusing to follow what IS world-law...not to mention MANY instances of unrestrained and unprovoked violence.

    I'm not saying that everyone from Japan is pompous, bllodthirsty, or so on...I'm just saying that Japan as a whole just DOES NOT LISTEN...

     

    Another reason we should have nuked every single [population center] in Japan...


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  •  09-03-2010, 5:07 PM 930334 in reply to 930313

    Re: ~ Whale Wars ~

    AC Matt Klassen:

    Another reason we should have nuked every single [population center] in Japan...

     

    you are an ignorant ***

     

    Japan is the only country that hasn't fired a bullet outside of their borders since WWII... If america got hit by nukes the world would be a better place right now.

     

    We wouldn't have ignorant assholes like you.

     

    Japan is now a peaceful country and most residents are against war and were against the actions done by the corrupt government back during those times. Japan no longer has an army they only have a self defense force. even the swiss are more aggressive than the Japanese. But you should always remember its the victor that wrights history.

     

    also to veraam, if the world suddenly decided that junk food were against the world "law" (Which there is none there are agreements between countries in the UN) do you think every north american would give up all forms of junk food just like that? no, they wouldn't and would say it goes against their rights. Well it goes the same for the Japanese, its their right to go whaling and if they over hunt the whales they will pay for it in the long run... you can't be close minded about these things and just look at them from their side of things, they have been doing this for year, its hundreds of people livelihoods that would die with out it. Its the same as us raising cows to be eaten, they are not endangered now but they may be in 100 years and they may come close to becoming instinct resulting in cow farmers everywhere being out of work because they can't do anything else.

     

    they way your making your post seem is that you want people to change they way they have always lived just because it suits someone else better. though we should all change to the Japanese way of living because they are much healthier, have virtually no crime, live longer, and are very respectful.

  •  09-03-2010, 5:51 PM 930348 in reply to 930334

    Re: ~ Whale Wars ~

    The people who harass the whaling fleet are nothing more than terrorists. What they're doing is completely outside of the law. What the Japanese fleet is doing is wrong as well, but what they're doing is technically within the grounds of the whale research. It's a loophole, but the Sea Shepard's are terrorists.

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  •  09-03-2010, 6:44 PM 930381 in reply to 930348

    Re: ~ Whale Wars ~

    The Sea Shepherds throw stink bombs of rotting butter at the whalers and the Japs use flash-bangs, LRAD's, large brass lugnuts, and pepper-spray cannons on them? And then they go so fr as to intentionally ram and destroy a multi-million dollar carbon fiber ship, nearly killing all six crew members on board? When said ship (the Adi Gil) was sitting DEAD IN THE WATER, with it's engine SHUT OFF?

    The Japs have a LONG history of unprovoked or overreactive violence. Don't believe me?

    1) Whaling against international law, overreacting against Sea Shepherds.
    2) Pearl Harbor
    3) Rape of Nanking  *gag*

    Many call the SS's liars or terrorists, but the Japs are the truly pathetic ones. Just this season, they complained that "three of thier crew members had fallen victim to Sea Shepherd attack, recieving severe chemical burns to thier faces."
    Beuteric Acid is a fancy way of saying "rotting butter."
    It's a freaking stink bomb.
    And, after reviewing footage from one of the SS attacks, where they were launching stinkbombs from a small inflatable, it was revealed that two whalers- equipped with backpacks and some sort of rifle-like object- fired a mist of pepper-spray substance at the Shepherd...into the wind. Causing the substance to fly right back into thier faces, as well as another guy behind them. They immediately reacted, rubbing thier eyes and so on.

    And the Japs blame the so-called (over-exaggerated) "severe chemical burns" on the Sea Shepherd's stinkbombs?

    PATHETIC.

    And the governments who withold the Internation Ban on whaling in the Southern ocean refuse to do ANYTHING?

    PATHETIC.

    And as it turns out, a group of untrained, amatuer volunteers on weak, outdated ships throwing stinkbombs are actually THE most effective thing done so far to end the murder?

    AMAZING.

    You think they're terrorists?

    Good. That's what they want you to think. But they could care less what you think. They're not mindless bufoons...

    They're just determined diehards on a mission to end what they think it wrong, to save one of the world's most amazing creatures from being pushed to extinction...

     


    "I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."
  •  09-03-2010, 7:15 PM 930414 in reply to 930334

    Re: ~ Whale Wars ~

    fiery grave:
    AC Matt Klassen:

    Another reason we should have nuked every single [population center] in Japan...

     

    you are an ignorant ***...very respectful.

    I didn't agree on all parts, but for the most of it, I agreed.  More than the necessary/required force (i.e. the multi-nukings) is always useless, and dumb.  Also, do you realize how expensive nukes are? The US would be in even greater debt if we'd made that many.
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  •  09-03-2010, 7:31 PM 930424 in reply to 930414

    Re: ~ Whale Wars ~

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    fiery grave:
    AC Matt Klassen:

    Another reason we should have nuked every single [population center] in Japan...

     

    you are an ignorant ***...very respectful.

    I didn't agree on all parts, but for the most of it, I agreed.  More than the necessary/required force (i.e. the multi-nukings) is always useless, and dumb.  Also, do you realize how expensive nukes are? The US would be in even greater debt if we'd made that many.

    I agree on that part, but read my above post...

    Look, I just respect the world we live in and the creatures that live with us.

    I...just don't want to see so many of those gorgeous, intelligent creatures slaughtered so cold-heartedly...harpooned, dragged to the side, shot until all but dead, then just dragged there until it dies...they don't deverve to die like that. No one and nothing does.

    If the killings were ANY kind of humane, than I would feel obliged to let them hunt as many as they need AS LONG AS they are not endangering any species.

    But the Japs ARE NOT listening, they're MURDERING these creatures in cold blood and even hunting the red-level endangered Humpback whale...

     


    "I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."
  •  09-03-2010, 8:02 PM 930436 in reply to 930381

    Re: ~ Whale Wars ~

    Veraam:

    1) Whaling against international law, overreacting against Sea Shepherds.

    2) Pearl Harbor
    3) Rape of Nanking  *gag*

     

    There is no "International law" thats why when your in International waters nothing you can do is illegal.... Whaling is with in their rights, and the fact they are putting animals close to being on the international  endangered species list, but its not like Americans haven't done the same things to other animals, look at poachers in all countries, just because a few people from one country do something you think is wrong (right and wrong are only opinions based on the point of view). If I (And most of the world) feel its wrong to invade a country with no real reason, and I go and throw stink bombs at the american soldiers, they are going to shoot me. Not spray some pepper spray at me but shoot me... and say they thought it was a real bomb. They will get away with it.

     

    Pearl harbor was ordered by a corrupt government that has since been abolished, if a corrupt president or general entered the white house and ordered soldiers to bomb euro unprovoked they would do it as they are soldiers and follow orders not make decisions.

     

    Nanking wasn't unprovoked.... the Chinese people had been terrorizing the Japanese people for years before this, thats the entire reason they attacked china and got involved in WWII. Chinese had raped and killed hundreds of Japanese citizens before this (both Chinese pirates and soldiers) while the Chinese government took the few raw resources Japan had. A lot of soldiers would have felt it as a revenge.... besides Nanking wasn't even been proven...

     

    Now the persecution of Japanese Americans during WWII, that was Illegal as their rights have been taken away... they were treated almost as badly as Hitler treated the Jews... that was justified right? The dropping of not one but two atomic bombs on innocent cities... not even military bases... but civilian residences... but american history classes like to leave that out of the text books or at least downplay it.

     

    Veraam:

    Many call the SS's liars or terrorists, but the Japs are the truly pathetic ones. Just this season, they complained that "three of thier crew members had fallen victim to Sea Shepherd attack, recieving severe chemical burns to their faces."


    And the governments who withold the Internation Ban on whaling in the Southern ocean refuse to do ANYTHING?

    PATHETIC.

     

    The government that keeps troops in a foreign country using and taking their resources?

    PATHETIC 

    whaling is a major part of the lively hood and the small amount of natural resources that japan has, but guess what... Whale is hardly eaten in Japan they sell it to other countries... countries like the USA Brittan, France and most of Asia.

    should people who are just doing a job be attacked because thats the only way to feed their family without being a criminal? if those people would to lose their job 90% would most likely kill themselves because they can no longer support their family's  

    Veraam: 

    And as it turns out, a group of untrained, amatuer volunteers on weak, outdated ships throwing stinkbombs are actually THE most effective thing done so far to end the murder?

    AMAZING.

     

     And as it turns out, a group of untrained, amatuer volunteers with weak, outdated Weapons throwing rocks are actually THE most effective thing done so far to end the Sins of america? (This is how a member of Al-Qaeda would see the war in Iraq and Afghanistan)

    Veraam:  

    They're just determined diehards on a mission to end what they think it wrong, to save one of the world's most amazing creatures from being pushed to extinction...

    Terrorist are doing the same thing, except it may be for a different reason that you see as bad but they see as good. Its all on where you look at it from

     If you look at the blue-fin tuna, its almost extinct and its eaten by a lot of Japanese and they eat 1/3 of the world tuna every year but it isn't native to Japanese waters its being hunted to endangerment by other countries. you say if it was humane you would step aside, but we don't kill the cows we eat humanely, they are electrocuted slowly to death... some chickens are too...

    and please stop saying Japs... thats a highly offensive term... its the equivalent of calling a black man a dirty N*** 

     

    watch this video it should help you realize a lot of things you do not understand

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgsbIfI0uIg

    Japanese are the politest people in the world and the most hospitable... I am defending  them because a lot of people are Ignorant of their culture and disrespect these people when they have no clue what they are talking about

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