OK. So i know the UNSC is the regimented army and because of that they get less units but they are stronger. They also get super units instead of hero units, and they have the leader powers, they also have D-bomb, and aoe heals. Thats fine but the economy bonus give the UNSC an even bigger advantage over the covenant in my opinion. thats why i also believe the Covenant should have economy bonus'. Here are some of my ideas, if you have some of your own please share. if you think this is a bad idea please give me your reason.

POR=Shield Generator x2- The shield generators for the por would be equivalent to two shield generators making the base defense stronger.

Arbiter=Half building time-all buildings and new bases take half the time to build than everyone else, anders takes half the cost and research so i thought this might be a nice buff for the arbiter to counter back.

BC=Tech2 turrest-Right off the bat the BC get tech 2 turets, this also increases base defense. Cutter automatically gets a fortress and every other building he makes is already and station so why not make it so the turrets start out tech two.

These are just my ideas, gimme some of yours or some criticsm, just trying help level the playing field.

They do have eco bonus...

Cheaper upgrades, cheaper units, and faster build times...

 

 

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But because they are cheeper they are also weeker. I do see how that is considered an eco bonus but if you were to make the units cost more, that would also make them stronger but also take longer to build. i know that defeats the purpose of the covenant in a sense but they have more units because they are weaker and the unsc have less because they are stronger. do you kinda get what im saying or am i just out there?

To be honest the playing field is pretty level as it is, covenant have a poor late-game but have their uses and I've certainly always preferred them. I do wish covenant leaders had more diversity though, a different unique unit and slightly different leaders doesn't really do it. If the covenant leaders had economic bonuses they would also have to take something away from each leader to make them even.

With your suggestions though the arbiter would be VASTLY overpowered.

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From what I understand from this forum is that "kangaroo love" is the boss around here and theres some poser named "sPro Mitch?" who keeps saying he's the best but he's not.

Someone wants the covy to be 2X more powerfull than UNSC.

What happened last time a leader got half build time? I'm curious.

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The Covenants best unit by far is the Banshee. Reapeting canon makes for great harassment, destroying reactors in the process.

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gilberg23:

The Covenants best unit by far is the Banshee. Reapeting canon makes for great harassment, destroying reactors in the process.

K... wrong thread?

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K well i aparently am the only one who thought this was probably needed then. I Just think that the covenant could use some kinda eco bosst like the unsc other than some weaker faster making units.

Plaguedforce:

K well i aparently am the only one who thought this was probably needed then. I Just think that the covenant could use some kinda eco bosst like the unsc other than some weaker faster making units.

Covy is generally fine, and UP vs UNSC here and there, but its very doable, but eco. advantage is too much.

I personally think TU#4 will get us as close to balance as possible.

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LaZy FrOg:

They do have eco bonus...

Cheaper upgrades, cheaper units, and faster build times...

 

 

Only two units Banshee (50) and wraiths (150)

oh and ghost (50)

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LaZy FrOg:

They do have eco bonus...

Cheaper upgrades, cheaper units, and faster build times...

units being weaker also counts towards the equation. so cheaper units is actually not exactly a bonus. covenant tech is also almost exactly the same as unsc, they do not get cheaper unprades. the build times i have not tested out but I assume them to be the same as the unsc for comparable units (a grunt to a marine and such).

a wraith is built in less time than a scorpian and cost less but scorpians trump wraiths in a bang-for-the-buck situation so i would not call that a bonus.

I agree. The fact that the covenant units cost less is completely negated by the fact that they are weaker. Any good UNSC player can easily counter a covie rush and once the rush is over there is a really good chance the covenant player will be steam rolled by much stronger units. Now I'm not saying that they will always be doomed cuz I myself who plays Arbiter and PoR most of the time have beaten the UNSC after a failed rush but against a good player it is not even close to easy. It would be nice to have some sort of additional bonus for the different covie leaders. It doesn't have to be major or anything but it would be cool.

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Why do people not notice that the highest win percentage by playing the covy, apply that, and theoretically they would need a nerf.

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gilberg23:

The Covenants best unit by far is the Banshee. Reapeting canon makes for great harassment, destroying reactors in the process.

K... wrong thread?

No, I just wanted to say that.

Although now that I read it, it seems a little out of place. :P

 

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crusaderking:Why do people not notice that the highest win percentage by playing the covy, apply that, and theoretically they would need a nerf.

Because after seeing that 2% figure they then take into account the large majority of new players, who will have a low win percentage, play as UNSC. Then they look at the 1v1 leaderboards and notice just how many of the first page are UNSC (anders).

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justjtealouse:

From what I understand from this forum is that "kangaroo love" is the boss around here and theres some poser named "sPro Mitch?" who keeps saying he's the best but he's not.