The Shield World

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  •  10-17-2009, 12:33 AM 749901

    The Shield World

    Another thread got me wondering this, is the Shield World in Halo Wars, actually a Shield World?

    The Shield Worlds were supposed to act as sort of a "bomb shelter" from the Halo Array. Not 100% sure on how Shield Worlds work, but basically you would enter a Slipspace transit and enter into a place safe from the activation of the Halos.

    The "Shield World" in Halo Wars does not behave as a "bomb shelter", meaning there is no protection from the Halo Array. Halo Wars' Shield World is more like an armory or a port. It contains a fleet of starships, not salvation.

    So my point I'm trying to get across, is that it's not really a Shield World at all, just a really big naval yard.

    Any thoughts? Do you agree? Disagree? Or have I gone completely insane from not sleeping for 30+ hours? 


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  •  10-17-2009, 1:59 AM 749976 in reply to 749901

    Re: The Shield World

    Considering it was essentially nothing like Onyx I personally don't consider a Shield World regardless of what Ensemble calls it.
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  •  10-17-2009, 2:16 AM 749984 in reply to 749976

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    Re: The Shield World

    My perspective on the shield world was that it was a world safe from the exploitations of the flood and the destructive force of the rings, a sanctuary. However obviously that crazy AI wats his face or rather let the flood inside the shield worlds allowing them to consume the forerunners, obviously pissed they fired the rings and killed off everything, if u may recall the terminals in halo 3 explain they had only 1 world unoccupied by the flood, which was soon to be attacked by a fleet of flood, all other worlds had fallen, were about to fall or were beyond the point of recovery. So they saved the universe by sacraficing themselves.

    Im more curious as to the origin of the flood. Where they another intelligent construct of the forerunners gone terribly wrong? Were they from another galaxy? Did the forerunners occupying worlds allow them to leave their Cradle Planet to expand across the universe in forerunner ships? I really wanna know!


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  •  10-17-2009, 1:26 PM 750399 in reply to 749984

    Re: The Shield World

    Vert:

    Im more curious as to the origin of the flood. Where they another intelligent construct of the forerunners gone terribly wrong? Were they from another galaxy? Did the forerunners occupying worlds allow them to leave their Cradle Planet to expand across the universe in forerunner ships? I really wanna know!

    The Flood is inter-galactic and the Forerunners are not. The Flood came to the Milky Way and the Forerunners treated it more as a disease, not as an all-life-consuming parasite. Because of that it was allowed to expand, instead of being combated quickly.
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  •  10-18-2009, 2:10 AM 751117 in reply to 750399

    Re: The Shield World

    I do think it was a Shield World. Even Onyx's "interior" was described as curving up, much like the inside of the world in Halo Wars. It's unclear, though very likely, that the mechanics on the inside of the planet had some sort of insulated shield against the Halo Array's signal, or maybe it was intended to shield the fleet from the Flood.

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  •  10-18-2009, 11:57 AM 751341 in reply to 750399

    Re: The Shield World

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    Im more curious as to the origin of the flood. Where they another intelligent construct of the forerunners gone terribly wrong? Were they from another galaxy? Did the forerunners occupying worlds allow them to leave their Cradle Planet to expand across the universe in forerunner ships? I really wanna know!

    The Flood is inter-galactic and the Forerunners are not. The Flood came to the Milky Way and the Forerunners treated it more as a disease, not as an all-life-consuming parasite. Because of that it was allowed to expand, instead of being combated quickly.

     

    They didn't really treat it as a disease, because when they first encountered it they knew it was a threat, and started to have war with it. The reason it expanded is because they couldn't figure out a way to kill it fast enough.


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  •  10-18-2009, 2:33 PM 751489 in reply to 751341

    Re: The Shield World

    It's not really anything like onyx, so i doubt that is a shield world, more likely it is what you said a  naval yard or armory of sorts.The flood being there is interesting thought, There are 2 possibilities to the Flood a) That they came from another galaxy b) created by the forerunners, for example the engineers were created by the forerunners, the flood could have been part of those experiments and ended up left on some desolate planet ( if the forerunners were like humans there would have been black-ops groups and secret research and what-not) I am not really sure though both stories have more than a few holes in them

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  •  10-18-2009, 3:01 PM 751511 in reply to 749901

    Re: The Shield World

    You all fail to consider that the sheild world was so far from the blast radius of these "halos" that it would not even have been brushed by the halos effect. At the same time, Onyx only looked differant because it was in slipspace and was actully made up of trillions of sentinels. Once you got past the sentinels, you would probably see something that looked like this sheild world as the outsurface.

    Remeber that the defination of a sheild world, in context of the forerunners, is a construct which can protect sentient life from the destructive power of the halos. Onyx's protocal was to enter slipspace and then come back out when the "storm(activation of the halos)" was over. The sentinels went hay-wire and instead made a massive gravitaional flux by adding massive mass to the sheild world by clustering around it, thus blocking it from entering regular space.

  •  10-18-2009, 3:26 PM 751536 in reply to 751511

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    theres one thing i dont understand about the flood, the AI like guilty spark as such had limited knowledge of the ark so they gravemind would'nt go there for safty of the halo array but they consummed the forerunners them selves and since the gravemind takes all the knowledge from all flood forms it would know where and what the ark was meant to be for so the limitations of the Halo AI E.g 343 guilty spark would have been useless once the war started so why did'nt the gravemind we met know where the ark was and how to get there :S

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  •  10-18-2009, 3:43 PM 751543 in reply to 751536

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    that gravemind had to have formed after the firing. it had been hundreds of years after the first firing and was in control of delta halo. we released the flood on installation04 where the flood had been dormant.
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  •  10-18-2009, 4:59 PM 751586 in reply to 751543

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    CHEVY4X4BLAZER:that gravemind had to have formed after the firing. it had been hundreds of years after the first firing and was in control of delta halo. we released the flood on installation04 where the flood had been dormant.

    The flood, near the end of the war between forerunner and flood, had several graveminds and had laid waste to countless planets. They probably did know the safehaven of the Ark, but aknowledge this : The Forerunners did not tell every single civilian where their safehaven was. If they had, a cowardly citizen would have probably blurted out the information to the enemy ; a bit like the president of the US dosn't want anyone to know about there investments in science, or things like roswell. The Forerunners probably got all of their political masterminds in machines and shipped them off to the ark or other sheild Instalations.

    Reasoning to this, the flood just couldn't get their putrid mits on a forerunner who knew anything about failsaifs regarding the end of the war.

  •  10-18-2009, 5:07 PM 751595 in reply to 751586

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    idont remember hearing about multiple graveminds but i believe it isa very good possibility. hopefully the forerunner series books will answer all of our questions next year.
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  •  10-18-2009, 5:37 PM 751628 in reply to 751586

    Re: The Shield World

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    CHEVY4X4BLAZER:that gravemind had to have formed after the firing. it had been hundreds of years after the first firing and was in control of delta halo. we released the flood on installation04 where the flood had been dormant.

    The flood, near the end of the war between forerunner and flood, had several graveminds and had laid waste to countless planets. They probably did know the safehaven of the Ark, but aknowledge this : The Forerunners did not tell every single civilian where their safehaven was. If they had, a cowardly citizen would have probably blurted out the information to the enemy ; a bit like the president of the US dosn't want anyone to know about there investments in science, or things like roswell. The Forerunners probably got all of their political masterminds in machines and shipped them off to the ark or other sheild Instalations.

    Reasoning to this, the flood just couldn't get their putrid mits on a forerunner who knew anything about failsaifs regarding the end of the war.


    Far from it.

    There maybe a few different graveminds i agree but the way the flood get info is by taking over a body and getting rid of info in the hosts brain they dont need and once a gravemind is formed all that info goes to the gravemind and i no about the 1 during the war but he had what 1 planet to take over to destroy the forerunner so somewhere out of billions of people he would've found about the ark.

    I understand about during the covie human war the new gravemind may not have known but he would've known what the ark MIGHT've been since the monitors thought it was a shield installation and the gravemind did capture 241 potent,

    Also the flood that was dormant was the same flood as 100.000 years before so if some of them survived delta halo then the gravemind may hav gathered that info

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  •  10-19-2009, 5:52 AM 752328 in reply to 751628

    Re: The Shield World

    well, we have to look at the design of the HW "Shield World" to gain understanding...
    from the outside, the planet was crawling with Flood. now that seems odd, due to the fact they were all just chillin'. The world MUST have been created after the war with the Flood began, because of the cleansing tunnels the ships had to pass through to get to the core. and with that little level addition, you technically have a protective layer around an obvious Forerunner installation. so yeah, it's a BIG stretch, but you could call it a shield world. and if you wanna go further, since the Forerunner ships were in "mint" condition, sitting on standby for 100K years, never used by their makers... maybe they were left for the next Mantle barers?
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  •  10-19-2009, 6:13 AM 752341 in reply to 752328

    Re: The Shield World

    There are still flood within the Shield World, so it you cannot call it a shield world in the sense that it will protect you from the Flood.
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