A certain inconsistency in Halo 3: Landfall.

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  •  09-19-2009, 8:46 PM 731477

    A certain inconsistency in Halo 3: Landfall.

    At the beginning of Halo 3 we are greeted with a certain sight. Master Chief is falling from Truth's carrier from orbit. However it is at night.

    Now in the beginning of the first level it we find Master Chief in the jungle, during the day. I was fine with this originally because I said "Ok, it took a while for Johnson to get there."

    But in the video Halo: Landfall we see Chief falling from orbit during the day.

    I believe an explanation is in store, or do you want me to believe that chief fell for 8 long hours? It is something that has been picking away at me, so do we go with the fact that the intro to Halo 3 is wrong, or do we go with order of canon?


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  •  09-19-2009, 8:59 PM 731491 in reply to 731477

    Re: A certain inconsistency in Halo 3.

    tmspartan:

    At the beginning of Halo 3 we are greeted with a certain sight. Master Chief is falling from Truth's carrier from orbit. However it is at night.

    Now in the beginning of the first level it we find Master Chief in the jungle, during the day. I was fine with this originally because I said "Ok, it took a while for Johnson to get there."

    But in the video Halo: Landfall we see Chief falling from orbit during the day.

    I believe an explanation is in store, or do you want me to believe that chief fell for 8 long hours? It is something that has been picking away at me, so do we go with the fact that the intro to Halo 3 is wrong, or do we go with order of canon?

    No lol, Chief is falling from the Forerunner Keyship that was from High Charity. And the Halo: Landfall wasn't part of the canon, it was just some random video.


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  •  09-19-2009, 9:19 PM 731501 in reply to 731491

    Re: A certain inconsistency in Halo 3.

    Distant Storm:
    tmspartan:

    At the beginning of Halo 3 we are greeted with a certain sight. Master Chief is falling from Truth's carrier from orbit. However it is at night.

    Now in the beginning of the first level it we find Master Chief in the jungle, during the day. I was fine with this originally because I said "Ok, it took a while for Johnson to get there."

    But in the video Halo: Landfall we see Chief falling from orbit during the day.

    I believe an explanation is in store, or do you want me to believe that chief fell for 8 long hours? It is something that has been picking away at me, so do we go with the fact that the intro to Halo 3 is wrong, or do we go with order of canon?

    No lol, Chief is falling from the Forerunner Keyship that was from High Charity. And the Halo: Landfall wasn't part of the canon, it was just some random video.

    It's still Truth's ship as he is the shipmaster and it was large enough to be classified as a Carrier.

    Landfall was a promotional video for Halo 3. But still it seems they could have put the effort in to make it at night if they were going to be consistent


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  •  09-19-2009, 10:01 PM 731523 in reply to 731501

    Re: A certain inconsistency in Halo 3.

    tmspartan:
    Distant Storm:
    tmspartan:

    At the beginning of Halo 3 we are greeted with a certain sight. Master Chief is falling from Truth's carrier from orbit. However it is at night.

    Now in the beginning of the first level it we find Master Chief in the jungle, during the day. I was fine with this originally because I said "Ok, it took a while for Johnson to get there."

    But in the video Halo: Landfall we see Chief falling from orbit during the day.

    I believe an explanation is in store, or do you want me to believe that chief fell for 8 long hours? It is something that has been picking away at me, so do we go with the fact that the intro to Halo 3 is wrong, or do we go with order of canon?

    No lol, Chief is falling from the Forerunner Keyship that was from High Charity. And the Halo: Landfall wasn't part of the canon, it was just some random video.

    It's still Truth's ship as he is the shipmaster and it was large enough to be classified as a Carrier.

    Landfall was a promotional video for Halo 3. But still it seems they could have put the effort in to make it at night if they were going to be consistent

    Perhaps its because it was dawn not in the middle of the night. Remember that Spartan-117 fell from a decaying orbit out of the Forerunner vessel. Not only that but he landed, more than likely, several hundred miles away. That is reasonable for the time frames being early morning you have daylight scenes in Landfall and a dawn scene for Spartan-117s actual landing. When being found enough time could have passed to bring it to early morning in that area.

    But thats just an idea.

  •  09-19-2009, 10:06 PM 731525 in reply to 731501

    Re: A certain inconsistency in Halo 3.

    tmspartan:
    Distant Storm:
    tmspartan:

    At the beginning of Halo 3 we are greeted with a certain sight. Master Chief is falling from Truth's carrier from orbit. However it is at night.

    Now in the beginning of the first level it we find Master Chief in the jungle, during the day. I was fine with this originally because I said "Ok, it took a while for Johnson to get there."

    But in the video Halo: Landfall we see Chief falling from orbit during the day.

    I believe an explanation is in store, or do you want me to believe that chief fell for 8 long hours? It is something that has been picking away at me, so do we go with the fact that the intro to Halo 3 is wrong, or do we go with order of canon?

    No lol, Chief is falling from the Forerunner Keyship that was from High Charity. And the Halo: Landfall wasn't part of the canon, it was just some random video.

    It's still Truth's ship as he is the shipmaster and it was large enough to be classified as a Carrier.

    Landfall was a promotional video for Halo 3. But still it seems they could have put the effort in to make it at night if they were going to be consistent

    There you go 


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  •  09-19-2009, 10:11 PM 731528 in reply to 731523

    Re: A certain inconsistency in Halo 3.

    VaultingFrog 2:

    Perhaps its because it was dawn not in the middle of the night. Remember that Spartan-117 fell from a decaying orbit out of the Forerunner vessel. Not only that but he landed, more than likely, several hundred miles away. That is reasonable for the time frames being early morning you have daylight scenes in Landfall and a dawn scene for Spartan-117s actual landing. When being found enough time could have passed to bring it to early morning in that area.

    But thats just an idea.

    I would take this to be true but the video's lighting seems to be more mid-day than early morning. And from the particular vantage point it was coming from it seemed to be on the side opposite where Chief was landing.

    Not to mention that the sun in the video is up over the mountains, meaning that the area that Chief landed would have been bathed in sunlight by the time he started to divert from the ship's course.

    Of course that's all based on observation.


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  •  09-19-2009, 10:15 PM 731531 in reply to 731525

    Re: A certain inconsistency in Halo 3.

    Obito:

    tmspartan:It's still Truth's ship as he is the shipmaster and it was large enough to be classified as a Carrier.

    Landfall was a promotional video for Halo 3. But still it seems they could have put the effort in to make it at night if they were going to be consistent

    There you go 

    If Bungie was to make a video they would have made it sync up with the following information you receive. They could have left it alone, but they put the effort into the video, but they made it during the day for a reason it seems. Which defies what we witnessed in the game.

    So I believe this whole "It doesn't count because it was video" crap doesn't really apply to my question.


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  •  09-19-2009, 10:30 PM 731538 in reply to 731528

    Re: A certain inconsistency in Halo 3.

    tmspartan:
    VaultingFrog 2:

    Perhaps its because it was dawn not in the middle of the night. Remember that Spartan-117 fell from a decaying orbit out of the Forerunner vessel. Not only that but he landed, more than likely, several hundred miles away. That is reasonable for the time frames being early morning you have daylight scenes in Landfall and a dawn scene for Spartan-117s actual landing. When being found enough time could have passed to bring it to early morning in that area.

    But thats just an idea.

    I would take this to be true but the video's lighting seems to be more mid-day than early morning. And from the particular vantage point it was coming from it seemed to be on the side opposite where Chief was landing.

    Not to mention that the sun in the video is up over the mountains, meaning that the area that Chief landed would have been bathed in sunlight by the time he started to divert from the ship's course.

    Of course that's all based on observation.

    That depends on the angle of his decent. Not to mention the height at which he was seperated from the vessel. If he was released in the stratosphere then he could have been between 10 - 30 miles above the surface of the Earth. That is alot of room for him to fly. And if he was released in the mesosphere it would be between 30 - 55 miles above the Earth. All of which would create friction on him and give him that burning entry we all saw.

    Given that amount of distance between him and the ground he could have traveled several hundred miles in a single direction, possably even transcontinental or intercontinental for that matter.

    That could easily account for the differences in light.

  •  09-19-2009, 10:44 PM 731542 in reply to 731538

    Re: A certain inconsistency in Halo 3.

    While I do agree that this is an inconsistency, I think it would be better to say an inconsistency with "Landfall." At the time when it was made, Halo 3 had already been near completed, and was in the "polish" stage. So the canonically correct sequence would be at night. It's also possible that the Marines tracking the comet would be somewhere far east of Kenya; far enough that it would still be early dawn at the Crow's Nest, yet bright and early where they're at.

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  •  09-19-2009, 11:12 PM 731551 in reply to 731528

    Re: A certain inconsistency in Halo 3.

    I would have to say this: it works.

    During Halo: Landfall, it is around 2-6:00 (depending on the date, idk) in the afternoon/evening. Remember, a space shuttle takes nearly a day to come down from space and land. MC was traveling at around Mach III. That means, it probably took around 12 hours to land. So, a timeline:

    For 2-3 hours, MC is falling from space. He hits the atmosphere, and his armor locks up.

    For another two hours, he is dropping through the stratosphere, and probably has lost consciousness. During his UNCONTROLLED FALL(because the Graphic Novel was low orbit and controlled), he is caught by the wind currents and tossed about for a bit.

    Another hour/half-hour, he finally tears through the clouds and smashes into the ground. After a few hours, Johnson gets to him.


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  •  09-19-2009, 11:32 PM 731559 in reply to 731551

    Re: A certain inconsistency in Halo 3.

    Nocbl2:

    I would have to say this: it works.

    During Halo: Landfall, it is around 2-6:00 (depending on the date, idk) in the afternoon/evening. Remember, a space shuttle takes nearly a day to come down from space and land. MC was traveling at around Mach III. That means, it probably took around 12 hours to land. So, a timeline:

    For 2-3 hours, MC is falling from space. He hits the atmosphere, and his armor locks up.

    For another two hours, he is dropping through the stratosphere, and probably has lost consciousness. During his UNCONTROLLED FALL(because the Graphic Novel was low orbit and controlled), he is caught by the wind currents and tossed about for a bit.

    Another hour/half-hour, he finally tears through the clouds and smashes into the ground. After a few hours, Johnson gets to him.

    Chief was already penetrating the atmosphere by the time he jumped out of the ship. This would mean he would have hit the ground in at most an hour because of his angle of entry.

    There is no specific timeline of when he jumped, nor is there any evidence telling us at what altitude he jumped, so you can't assume it took hours to hit the ground.


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  •  09-19-2009, 11:40 PM 731562 in reply to 731559

    Re: A certain inconsistency in Halo 3.

    tmspartan:
    Nocbl2:

    I would have to say this: it works.

    During Halo: Landfall, it is around 2-6:00 (depending on the date, idk) in the afternoon/evening. Remember, a space shuttle takes nearly a day to come down from space and land. MC was traveling at around Mach III. That means, it probably took around 12 hours to land. So, a timeline:

    For 2-3 hours, MC is falling from space. He hits the atmosphere, and his armor locks up.

    For another two hours, he is dropping through the stratosphere, and probably has lost consciousness. During his UNCONTROLLED FALL(because the Graphic Novel was low orbit and controlled), he is caught by the wind currents and tossed about for a bit.

    Another hour/half-hour, he finally tears through the clouds and smashes into the ground. After a few hours, Johnson gets to him.

    Chief was already penetrating the atmosphere by the time he jumped out of the ship. This would mean he would have hit the ground in at most an hour because of his angle of entry.

    There is no specific timeline of when he jumped, nor is there any evidence telling us at what altitude he jumped, so you can't assume it took hours to hit the ground.

    The guy said in the beginning: "Two kilometers. Easy." Meaning, he fell at least two km's from the ship. At least.
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  •  09-20-2009, 1:45 AM 731652 in reply to 731477

    Re: A certain inconsistency in Halo 3: Landfall.

    While we're on the topic of Landfall's inconsistencies, there is another. The ODST's visors, rather than being the standard black seen in any other ODST throughout Halo 2, 3 and ODST are a reddish-orange color.

    While a small difference, this leads me to say that the blame for the time being different was on the part of Halo: Landfall.


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  •  09-20-2009, 1:47 AM 731653 in reply to 731477

    Re: A certain inconsistency in Halo 3: Landfall.

    tmspartan:

    At the beginning of Halo 3 we are greeted with a certain sight. Master Chief is falling from Truth's carrier from orbit. However it is at night.

    Now in the beginning of the first level it we find Master Chief in the jungle, during the day. I was fine with this originally because I said "Ok, it took a while for Johnson to get there."

    But in the video Halo: Landfall we see Chief falling from orbit during the day.

    I believe an explanation is in store, or do you want me to believe that chief fell for 8 long hours? It is something that has been picking away at me, so do we go with the fact that the intro to Halo 3 is wrong, or do we go with order of canon?

    He's Master Chief he doesn't care about canon and the difference between night and day, he can do what ever he wants because he's the boss....
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  •  09-20-2009, 2:19 AM 731677 in reply to 731653

    Re: A certain inconsistency in Halo 3: Landfall.

    I swear, if this turns into a Chuck Norris thread, I will rage.


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