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Large Falls?

Last post 05-15-2008, 3:03 AM by Sparhawk. 53 replies.
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  •  05-14-2008, 12:31 AM 228972

    Large Falls?

    We know that one way or another, the military vehicles will be transported by air.

    My question is:

    If a scorpion tank is being transported by either the Albatross or Pelican, when shot down while doing so...should the tank or other vehicles survive the fall if it's on land? (I think they should survive the fall) Over water the tanks would sink when their air transport is shot down, on a mountain tip they'd either explode or crumple. But on mildly flat ground should they survive the fall, should you still be able to use them in combat...the fall should damage their health however.

    Would other vehicles also survive a fall like that...what about the warthog and wraith?

    Edit: Should spartans survive the fall?

    Also because of my thread name, 'Large Falls'. Should there be water falls in some MP and campaign maps? (Just something random)

    Comments?/Thoughts?

    Answer away...

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  •  05-14-2008, 12:43 AM 228976 in reply to 228972

    Re: Large Falls?

    Sparhawk:
    If a scorpion tank is being transported by either the Albatross or Pelican, when shot down while doing so...should the tank or other vehicles survive the fall if it's on land?

    Depends. If the Pelican or Albatross is close to the ground, the vehicle should survive, but have taken a lot of damage. But, if the transport aricraft is high above the ground, I say the vehicle should just shatter on impact.

    Here's a question: aren't vehicles transported inside the Albatross?

    Sparhawk:
    Over water the tanks would sink when their air transport is shot down, on a mountain tip they'd either explode or crumple.

    Agreed. Otherwise it would make no sense.

    Sparhawk:
    But on mildly flat ground should they survive the fall

    Like I said, it depends on how high the transport aircraft was when it was shot down.

    Sparhawk:
    Should there be water falls in some MP and campaign maps?

    Definitely. Nice to see a waterfall as scenery, they're not that common in games, as far as I know.

    Comment away...

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  •  05-14-2008, 12:54 AM 228979 in reply to 228976

    Re: Large Falls?

    To answer your first question Hunter, Yes, the vehicles are transported inside the Albatross so there would be less chance of the vehicles inside surviving having their transport shot down. But when shot down the Albatross could be shown as crashing and the scorpion etc, may be able to escape the wreckage from the back opening.

    Edit: The vehicles inside of the Albatross may slide out of the back opening (Straps that are holding the vehicles snap from the plasma shots) and fall when the Albatross is being shot up dramatically... and eventually starts descending towards the ground to crash and burn?

    Good point Hunter.

    Pelicans, will probably have a set height that they will fly, but if shot down while landing, it would be closer to ground and there would be a bigger chance of the vehicle surviving the fall.

    Thanks for your very good, constructive contribution.




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  •  05-14-2008, 12:59 AM 228980 in reply to 228979

    Re: Large Falls?

    Sparhawk:
    vehicles are transported inside the Albatross so there would be less chance of the vehicles inside surviving having their transport shot down.

    Actually, there may be more of a chance of the vehicles inside surviving. Being inside the Albatross, the vehicles would be protected from the full force of the impact because of the hull being between them and the ground. But they would still have to have some damage taken away, say, 30-40%.

    Sparhawk:
    Pelicans, will probably have a set height that they will fly, but if shot down while landing it would be closer to ground and there would be a bigger chance of the vehicle surviving the fall.

    Good point. So, if at their set height, the vehicles will not survive. But if they are landing, then the vehicles should survive, but take heavy damage, at least 50%.




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  •  05-14-2008, 1:02 AM 228982 in reply to 228980

    Re: Large Falls?

    The set height wouldn't be that high...and the tank is pretty solid so it would have a bigger chance of surviving then any other vehicle from a higher height.

    It should be a different height limit for each vehicle.

    Thanks for your honest contribution.

    Edit: I've edited my previous post.

    P.S. Where is everyone else?




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  •  05-14-2008, 1:07 AM 228983 in reply to 228982

    Re: Large Falls?

    Sparhawk:

    The set height wouldn't be that high...and the tank is pretty solid so it would have a bigger chance of surviving then any other vehicle from a higher height.

    It should be a different height limit for each vehicle.

    Thanks for your honest contribution.

    P.S. Where is everyone else?

    I see your point.

    I agree, there should be a height limit. Like, Warthogs can only fall 100 meters without being destroyed, but the Scorpions can survive 200. Just some examples, maybe not too realistic, though.




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  •  05-14-2008, 1:09 AM 228985 in reply to 228983

    Re: Large Falls?

    I agree with you 100 A %.

    Excellent contribution...don't try to deny it.




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  •  05-14-2008, 1:10 AM 228986 in reply to 228982

    Re: Large Falls?

    Sparhawk:

    P.S. Where is everyone else?

    I'm here!  I just didnt really have anything to say other than what you guys have already said. 

    On that note,  there was a post a while ago that mentioned ordering a pelican to fly higher.  I would personally say that they should have the option to do so when being attacked.  The aircraft would take less damage when higher, but if destroyed its contents would die instantly.



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  •  05-14-2008, 1:14 AM 228987 in reply to 228986

    Re: Large Falls?

    Yes, nice idea. So they could fly high enough to avoid anti-air guns? Probably not, but high enough to escape vehicle fire etc.

    Should Spartans survive a medium large fall?

    Thanks for your contribution.

     




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  •  05-14-2008, 1:17 AM 228989 in reply to 228987

    Re: Large Falls?

    Anti-air guns should be focused primarily on attacking aircraft, whatever the height.  Stray bullets and attacks should still be able to hit, like in our small conversation last night, luck can improve a game.

    Well if you think back to the Spartan fall in... 'First Strike' I think it was, most survived, but almost all were severly injured.



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  •  05-14-2008, 1:26 AM 228993 in reply to 228989

    Re: Large Falls?

    Just remember they survived because of their shields...they won't have shields in this time period.

    Yes, there should be the random stray bullet to make the game feel more like the combat isn't all scripted.

    Very good point, nice contribution.

    I agree.




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  •  05-14-2008, 1:34 AM 228996 in reply to 228993

    Re: Large Falls?

    Oh, I wasnt aware they didnt have them at this point.  I think they should land hard and have a slight possibility of surviving, but still be extremely injured.  It might encourage the use of tactics to get them across the map if you don't want to risk them.

    I am yet to see an RTS incorperate luck (although I dont play them much)  so there should be the possiblity if they are flighing over the higher powered vehicles, like wraiths and scarabs.



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  •  05-14-2008, 1:42 AM 228999 in reply to 228996

    Re: Large Falls?

    Yes, luck or chance, would make the game more entertaining and... what's the word...amusing.

    The Spartans should still survive a largish fall...just not too high, they should have a larger height limit...maybe as large as the tank?

    Valid points.

    Thanks for your sophisticated contribution.




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  •  05-14-2008, 1:49 AM 229003 in reply to 228999

    Re: Large Falls?

    Wouldnt you love to see a Marine aiming at an elite but accidentally killing the grunt next to it?

    Yeah, but they would still be injured.  Perhaps another luck factor would involve the scorpions possibly landing upside down, rendering them useless.



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  •  05-14-2008, 2:18 AM 229006 in reply to 229003

    Re: Large Falls?

    Ryzza:

    Wouldnt you love to see a Marine aiming at an elite but accidentally killing the grunt next to it?

    Yeah, but they would still be injured.  Perhaps another luck factor would involve the scorpions possibly landing upside down, rendering them useless.

    ...Or a marine aims at an indent in a jackals shield, shoots and accidentally kills a hunter that was beside the jackal. lol. So hilarious.

    ...Or a scorpion lands on some marines and kills them. lol.

    It would be all that more amusing to play the game, hope something like that is implemented.

    Excellent contribution.




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